Commons:Deletion requests/File:Valhalla crater on Callisto.jpg

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File:Valhalla crater on Callisto.jpg

copyrighted by C. J. Hamilton https://solarviews.com/cap/jup/callist2.htm Anonymsiy (talk) 07:50, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and close, the image was taken by Voyager 1, NASA, and is free to use. And a speedy deletion tag? Someone is putting up a lot of mistaken speedy deletion tags, please be much more careful and take down those already placed, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:49, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Kept, Calvin Hamilton erroneously claims copyright. Actually this is work of NASA and every copyright claim is null and void. Taivo (talk) 11:10, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Valhalla crater on Callisto.jpg

these images were PRODUCED by calvin j hamilton. yes, the original images were made by nasa, but this modification is not. his images are copyrighted too. https://solarviews.com/cap/jup/callist2.htm Anonymsiy (talk) 15:49, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What modification? Also notice that CJH attributes it to the wrong Voyager flight. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:54, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

he processed the images. and if this version of the images was originally made by nasa, then show me the source. sorry for the passive agressive tone. Anonymsiy (talk) 15:57, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

for example: the images used in https://www.planetary.org/space-images/triton_hiresmf1 are made by nasa, but the processing is done by ted stryk, and due to him copyrighting his images, we cannot use them on wikipedia. same thing here. Anonymsiy (talk) 16:01, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

How is it processed? I'd think that if someone added rockets and comets and things then they could say they can copyright the image, but if he added a color filter I'd think that he couldn't claim ownership (or could he?). Notice that the current image is also a color change from the "copyrighted" image, so does the editor who shifted the color also own the copyright to the NASA image? Also note that this image was used on the main page of English Wikipedia in 2006. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:05, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

the raw images are here https://opus.pds-rings.seti.org/#/instrument=Voyager+ISS&target=Callisto&cols=opusid,instrument,planet,target,time1,observationduration&widgets=instrument,observationtype,target&order=time1,opusid&view=browse&browse=gallery&cart_browse=gallery&startobs=211&cart_startobs=1&detail= (page 211) as you can see, the original images are not stitched together. he stitched them together and yes, gave a color filter, but that was for attempted "realism" which didnt hold up well but it is something. Anonymsiy (talk) 16:09, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Still seeing NASA images, no matter how someone shuffled them. The last upload of the image is from an editor (now blocked), who changed the color, and in your argument since they changed the color now owns copyright. Anyway, I'm not a copyright lawyer so don't know if I'm pointing out pertinent things or speaking out of turn or out of my hat or something. Hopefully others will join in (although that 'speedy deletion' tag seems excessive, as do almost all speedy deletion tags). Randy Kryn (talk) 16:52, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

well, he modified the images which makes his copyright still valid. also, the color thing isnt really the main point. the point is that he stitched multiple images together, which really makes it his own work. Anonymsiy (talk) 17:28, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

also, yes they are nasa images, but due to his modifications, they are now his images for his use. Anonymsiy (talk) 17:28, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Images created and published by NASA are certainly in the public domain, but there is precedent on Commons that images created by someone outside of NASA based on NASA imagery have their own copyright. Deleting such images when copyright is claimed is in line with COM:PCP.

a few recent examples:

and more from the same solarviews website:

many others could be found

SevenSpheres (talk) 18:40, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

thank you bro Anonymsiy (talk) 18:56, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

i give up gng these people dont know 😭😭😭 Anonymsiy (talk) 20:39, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Not any modification to an image creates separate copyright. For this to happen the image must be original including exhibiting some minimal level of creativity. Purely mechanical, functional or algoritmic modifications are not protected by copyright. I fail to see how some algoritmic stitching of pd images can create something that is not pd. Ruslik (talk) 19:55, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: no valid reason for deletion. Trivial changes do not create a new copyright. BTW I think some of the files mentioned above should have been kept. --Yann (talk) 20:49, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]